In a historic decision Tuesday, the Arizona Supreme Court ruled the state must adhere to a 123-year-old penal code provision barring all abortions except in cases when “it is necessary to save” a pregnant person’s life.
The law, which can be traced to as early as 1864, also carried a prison sentence of two to five years for abortion providers.
to what extent is providing IVF treatment to families the best option? To what extent does it truly protect the life of the mother and the unborn? //
This experience taught me a lot about the need to advocate for my own health. I can’t imagine how many women a year go into those clinics desperate for a child, blindly trusting these doctors and unaware of any restorative approaches to treating their reproductive systems. How many women wind up spending hundreds of thousands of dollars putting their bodies through so much pain? How many human embryos are created and frozen because the doctor was lazy — or greedy? How many doctors know the actual outcomes of IVF but aren’t upfront about the heartache and risks?
States like Alabama need to rethink how they are fighting the pro-life fight. Women need to know there are safer, more affordable, and more effective options. I’m so grateful I learned about this holistic method and was able to give birth to a healthy baby.
Democrats have stated that abortion will be on the 2024 ballot, and this manufactured IVF controversy is one of the many wedges being used to ensure this. How do we know this? Because ASRM, while praising the Alabama legislation, once again claimed that it was not enough. They want the Alabama Supreme Court decision that human embryos are persons rescinded. From another recent press release:
We are pleased that the legislation passed into law by the Alabama General Assembly will at least allow our members in the state to care for their patients, however it clearly offers only a temporary solution. It fails to correct the underlying mistake the Court made when it conflated an in vitro fertilized egg with a child. //
Democrat lawmakers, under the sway of ASRM, have created a wedge issue. Its goal: to erode Dobbs' impact. ASRM thanked Rep. Jamie Raskin (D-MD) and other Democrat legislators who will have as their SOTU guests "prominent people in the fertility community." This is window dressing and a solid Democrat tactic: Muddy the issue for the purpose of moving abortion back under federal control. Sadly, Republicans continue to play the game instead of educating themselves and going on offense for Life. //
Random US Citizen
11 minutes ago
Is a fertilized egg a person, or not. That's the crux of the entire debate. And if not, at what point does it become one? After the first cell division? After some arbitrary amount of time? After the unborn child can feel pain? Only when it's viable outside the womb?
The reason the abortion debate is so fraught is that many tentatively pro-life people aren't completely comfortable with the logical conclusion of their position. That conclusion is that life starts at conception. That a fertilized egg is just as much a "person" as a twenty-week unborn baby or a toddler. If that's true, then an "embryo" removed from the womb and "destroyed" kills a person just as surely as when a "fetus" is.
We need to clearly understand that this is what we're asserting and then stand by it. The solution isn't to allow IVF clinics to remove "embryos" and then "accidentally" destroy them. It's to force abortion proponents to define when they think life starts and then pound them with their position. Because their position is almost always extreme--allowing abortion up until the moment of birth and often encompassing infanticide. Both of which are losers with the general voting population.
Caedite eos. Novit enim Dominus qui sunt eius
New documents obtained via public record request by the Center for Medical Progress (CMP) reveal contracts and conversations between Planned Parenthood and the University of California San Diego (UCSD) where the abortion provider agreed to supply aborted fetal body parts to the school explicitly for “valuable consideration.” In exchange, the university would grant Planned Parenthood ownership of all “patents” and “intellectual property” developed through research and experiments using the supplied fetal tissue. //
CMP and Daleiden say they are still reviewing thousands of pages of documents connecting UCSD faculty and researchers to patents held by the University of California “as a result of its supply of aborted babies.” //
Transferring aborted human fetal tissue for “valuable consideration” is a federal felony punishable by up to 10 years in prison or a fine of up to $500,000.
Here is the conversation that needs to be had: Why do we wish to discard children, especially potentially special-needs or health-challenged children, rather than do all we can to help them survive and thrive, no matter how long that might be? Why do we not give families making this difficult decision the support necessary to see life not as an option but as the only quality choice? //
edhuff bk
9 hours ago
The public really didn't want to know about this ladies' personal reproductive health problems and because the termination "services" she sought were readily available in adjacent states, the public was unswayed by the legal theatrics.
Ed in North Texas edhuff
8 hours ago
The "theatrics" will be played over and over again in 2024 and subsequent elections.
George Orwell Ed in North Texas
7 hours ago
So be it. Evil has always sought compromise and that compromise has always led to more evil.
The message of life and hope must be clearer, smarter, and louder.
This message must permeate all media on every platform.
The message must grab and hold the viewer. Make them pause and think, but also feel the goodness of life in the message.
This requires a ton of talent and messaging skill, enough money to produce the messages, and a ton of money to get those messages to the people being lied to.
It's gonna be hard.
Will we even try? //
DaveM
2 hours ago edited
I thought the Texas Supreme Court got it right here.
The Supreme Court did not deny her a medically necessary abortion.
What I found really interesting was their statement that a woman does not need a court order to get a medically necessary abortion. What she does need is a determination from a medically competent professional that she needs one. And that medical professional is expected to use reasonable medical standards in making that determination.
Greg Price @greg_price11
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Right now on the Senate floor: Sen. Lindsey Graham, Todd Young, Dan Sullivan, Joni Ernst, and Mitt Romney are trying to confirm by unanimous consent the military promotions that @TTuberville is blocking until the Pentagon stops funding the killing of unborn babies.
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