Chuck Rambo
5 hours ago
What is this "radicalization" that you speak of? Because unless there are other "religions" that have that as a feature then it is unique to islam. Are there radical Lutherans? Catholics? Methodists? Buddhists? No? Never heard of those? No one has. And there is no such thing as radical islam. There is no special, secret text from their so-called prophet that is labeled Double Secret Radical islam.

There is only islam. And all of these acts of barbarism are integral with it. You people need to deal with reality.

frylock234 Chuck Rambo
5 hours ago
There are radical Christians, but the difference between Christianity and Islam is that radical Christians don't tend to go murderous in their zealotry. There is a secular YouTuber - Sargon of Akkad - who analyzed the two religions from an outside, non-religious perspective and said it best: Christianity is internally focused leading to attempts at self-improvement when followed logically and correctly. Islam is externally focused leading to attempts to force improvement on all around you when followed logically and correctly.

While we Christians will run around trying, sometimes very hard, to persuade you that you ought to care about the state of your soul, the state of your soul is not going to affect the state of ours. Whether or not we are ultimately saved is a personal thing between us and God; you don't factor in. For Muslims, salvation is about you and them and everyone else - All the world must be for Allah and part of the struggle is to fight toward making it so. That leads to radicalizing like we see where zealots will either convert you or kill you toward those ends.

Chuck Rambo frylock234
5 hours ago
I see it differently.

There are orthodox Christians and secular "Christians." This is the same with Judaism. You could also call them practicing and non-practicing. Or serious and unserious. Makes no difference. But they aren't murderous to those who believe differently.

islam is rather unique in that way in that they see the world as muslim or infidel. Infidels have but three options: conversion to islam, enslavement or death. muslims seem pretty keen on dishing out death as perhaps the other two options are more labor intensive and don't involve martyrdom and eternity with virgins. //

frylock234 Chuck Rambo
4 hours ago
Again, it's internally focused v. externally focused. If you are focused on your own internal state, and most of the tenets of Christianity (and Judaism as they have the same roots) are about how you personally make yourself a better person, then you are less likely to start acting murderous toward those around you who aren't likewise following your same faith.

But when your faith's tenets are less about how you personally must be and how the world around you must be ordered to satisfy the requirements of your faith, then you are going to be under pressure to force all around you to conform for the sake of your soul as much as their own. That can lead to murderous zealotry because everyone has to either conform to your needed moral/religious order or you have to remove them in order to create the spiritually ordered world necessary.

anon-5jj3 frylock234
5 hours ago
That’s how you know islam is not an abrahamic faith nor is Allah the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.

Temujin anon-5jj3
4 hours ago
Muhammad took the Hebrew story of Isaac and Ishmael, and turned it upside down, making Ishmael what the Bible says of Isaac. That's why the Jews of Arabia laughed at the illiterate clown Muhammed. And that's why Muslims have hated Jews for centuries.

Then Muhammad claimed that Ishmael was ancestor of the Arabs, for which there is no evidence at all. Islam is an enormous fraud. But so is socialism, which is why the Left defends Islam. //

Billy Wallace frylock234
5 hours ago edited
Well Robert Bowers and Dylann Roof are two examples of Christians who committed pretty serious acts of terrorism

there are currently 1.57 Billion Muslims in the world, and over 3.45 million just in the United States. One of four people on the earth are Muslims and 99.999999999% of the world's Muslims do not commit acts of terrorism

just like 99.9999999999% of NRA members don't go around shooting people, shall we also ban the NRA and guns?

we need to be really careful with scapegoating entire groups of people because of the Acts of a few idiots...

Chuck Rambo Billy Wallace
5 hours ago edited
Nice try. I don't recall ever hearing that they claimed to do it for Christianity. And were they actually Christians? Judas followed Christ but didn't seem to pass the test in the end. Also, there were almost certainly denunciations from every corner of Christendom. All you ever hear from the islamic communities is crickets when when these atrocities occur.

I'm guessing you have or have had one of those "coexist" bumper stickers on your car. Pretty hard to coexist with a group that deals in death to unbelievers.