AKERMAN: That stuff [government bureaucracy] is sacrosanct, and you've got people going in there who don't know anything about...(crosstalk)...Elon Musk doing this, he knows nothing about it.

JENNINGS: What you just said is so profound. You said these people don't know anything and they don't know what they're doing.

AKERMAN: That's right. I'm talking about Elon Musk.

JENNINGS: I understand, but they are appointees of the duly elected president so your view, you're here as our legal expert, but your view is because you don't personally believe they know enough, that the duly-elected president who appointed a treasury secretary and who appoints special appointees like Elon Musk shouldn't be able to act as the president because you don't personally believe they know enough? Is that how it works? Do elections mean anything to you?

AKERMAN: It's got nothing to do with elections. //

What they believe in is an unaccountable bureaucratic system that allows them to thumb their noses at American voters. It's a "heads I win, tails you lose" setup, and it has been the basis of Democratic Party power stretching back to the Woodrow Wilson era.